tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20692053.post7522211572749403763..comments2023-11-03T06:35:48.003-05:00Comments on Shark and Shepherd: The Holiday formerly known as Good FridayRick Esenberghttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07280070509167910367noreply@blogger.comBlogger10125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20692053.post-90569817220607844402009-01-28T14:21:00.000-06:002009-01-28T14:21:00.000-06:00is not a religious thing folks. Everyone here miss...is not a religious thing folks. Everyone here missed the point. We have in our mist, the PSRP, the states most powerful union who represents the instructors at the technical colleges. Aside from this juicy little holiday they negotiate because our Govenor buys his votes that way, they have more holidays off than you and your kids will ever have combined. They negotiate these things at taxpayers expense. So it was suggested that perhaps they attempted to get another day off that shouldnt be acknowledged. In the meantime, review your tax bill and sleep better knowing each instructor earns 90K for a 38 hour workweek, and 3 days off a month with 12 holidays annually. Best way to spend taxpayers money and get votes...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20692053.post-69017649643366848532009-01-28T12:08:00.000-06:002009-01-28T12:08:00.000-06:00Anon 11:31--I think Anon 11:25 is implying that Hy...Anon 11:31--I think Anon 11:25 is implying that Hyland states his view as "oh. . .the poor Christians are always so beat up upon". So in essence, I think Anon 11:25 was telling Hyland to get himself a life, too.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20692053.post-32045303319133061422009-01-28T11:31:00.000-06:002009-01-28T11:31:00.000-06:00anon 11:25 - Do you have any examples that they ha...anon 11:25 - <BR/><BR/>Do you have any examples that they haven't been allowed to freely worship without goverment being an obstacle?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20692053.post-41792898959141243382009-01-28T11:25:00.000-06:002009-01-28T11:25:00.000-06:00John Hyland--as long as you remember to let Jews b...John Hyland--as long as you remember to let Jews be Jewish and all the other non-Christian religions practice their faith, too, as well as agnostics and athesists to choose to have faith or not.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20692053.post-54214073178956651662009-01-28T08:36:00.000-06:002009-01-28T08:36:00.000-06:00If I remember correctly, when this stopped being a...If I remember correctly, when this stopped being a state holiday in the mid-90's, it was because Good Friday can't be stated as a specific calendar day without reference to religion - i.e., in reference to how Easter Sunday is calculated. And, so, state employees were given an additional 1/2 day of 'personal time' to take when they wish.<BR><BR/>By contrast, the December days off can be stated in contracts as December 24 and December 25 - with no reference to the 'purpose' of the days.<BR><BR/>For a school system, of any sort, I would imagine they have the freedom to choose when they offer a spring break/vacation period. But, I have to admit, I haven't read the full details of FFRF's complaint.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20692053.post-1187597264055872522009-01-28T08:28:00.000-06:002009-01-28T08:28:00.000-06:00Is not Christmas a religious holiday? Why are off...Is not Christmas a religious holiday? Why are offices and others closed on Sundays? This is the American fabric. Are we going to wait before the whole nation is secular the likes of Europe who used to be Christian. Tell these anti-Christian folks to get a life. Let Christians be Christians. It is guaranteed by the Constitution. John HYlandAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20692053.post-47410935844957534302009-01-27T22:12:00.000-06:002009-01-27T22:12:00.000-06:00The way the economy is going, both sides' argument...The way the economy is going, both sides' arguments will be moot. Everyone will be working in a low pay service industry job and no one will be getting a holiday off.capperhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08751967312821403092noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20692053.post-13560953992882868042009-01-27T16:26:00.000-06:002009-01-27T16:26:00.000-06:00I knew I should'a bought the program when I walked...I knew I should'a bought the program when I walked into the stadium. One game they're claiming the professor types are heathens, the next they're saying most of them are so pious they need Good Friday off for a little extra reflection. <BR/><BR/>Of course, for those of you playing at home and desirous of original source material, here's FFRF's <A HREF="http://www.ffrf.org/news/2009/goodfridaytc.php" REL="nofollow">own press release</A> and <A HREF="http://ffrf.org/legal/wtcs.pdf" REL="nofollow">January 16 letter</A> and their summary of the <A HREF="http://ffrf.org/legal/legal2.php#goodfriday" REL="nofollow">1996 decision</A>. <BR/><BR/>In the PR it quotes Brent Smith, president of the Wisconsin Technical College System Board, saying that "15 out of the 16 technical colleges in the Wisconsin Technical College System are closed in observance of the Christian holy day, Good Friday, which is April 10 this year." <BR/><BR/>The Professor is claiming that this is significantly different than the situation in the 1996 decision that found unconstitutional our 1945 statute that said "On Good Friday, the period from 11 a.m. to 3 p.m. shall uniformly be observed for the purpose of worship."Display Namehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15842340986220388709noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20692053.post-85663141517633029702009-01-27T13:00:00.000-06:002009-01-27T13:00:00.000-06:00The FFRF seems to win on one of two fronts, in a C...The FFRF seems to win on one of two fronts, in a Constantine type of way, combining the secular and religious thus minimizing the importance of the religious observation,yoSAMitehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17930132220632116825noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20692053.post-28055260439153291962009-01-27T12:00:00.000-06:002009-01-27T12:00:00.000-06:00I thought the State is not supposed to be an obsta...I thought the State is not supposed to be an obstacle to the free exercise of religion. Isn't there a difference between endorsing and accommodating?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com