tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20692053.post114317174694879665..comments2023-11-03T06:35:48.003-05:00Comments on Shark and Shepherd: Establishment of Religion in San FranciscoRick Esenberghttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07280070509167910367noreply@blogger.comBlogger8125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20692053.post-1143231671295577542006-03-24T14:21:00.000-06:002006-03-24T14:21:00.000-06:00Apologies happily accepted. You're not the first ...Apologies happily accepted. You're not the first to mistake my sarcasm for stated opinion. :)Amyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05913350782739004678noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20692053.post-1143229671892846662006-03-24T13:47:00.000-06:002006-03-24T13:47:00.000-06:00Amy, will do, and apologies. I should slow down.Amy, will do, and apologies. I should slow down.Billiamhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15489132492383133253noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20692053.post-1143227322871639302006-03-24T13:08:00.000-06:002006-03-24T13:08:00.000-06:00billiam:I was being sarcastic. Check out my blog ...billiam:<BR/><BR/>I was being sarcastic. Check out my blog - I'm fully aware of the meaning of the First Amendment.<BR/><BR/>I was just pointing out the the phrase "separation of church and state" means two different things to the left:<BR/><BR/>1. Anyone (i.e., any Christian) cannot pray, say "God" or "Christmas" or do anything even resembling religion in public.<BR/><BR/>2. We (the left) can work to establish laws that violate the First Amendment and esentially establish secular humanism as a religion and that's fine.<BR/><BR/>Does that make sense?<BR/><BR/>I can be very sarcastic, but it doesn't always translate well to writing. :smile:Amyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05913350782739004678noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20692053.post-1143221412194208202006-03-24T11:30:00.000-06:002006-03-24T11:30:00.000-06:00It's possible I've misiterpreted her intent. Would...It's possible I've misiterpreted her intent. Wouldn't be the first time. ;-(Billiamhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15489132492383133253noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20692053.post-1143220890802014432006-03-24T11:21:00.000-06:002006-03-24T11:21:00.000-06:00I think Billiam and Amy are saying the same thing....I think Billiam and Amy are saying the same thing.Rick Esenberghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07280070509167910367noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20692053.post-1143220240171863682006-03-24T11:10:00.000-06:002006-03-24T11:10:00.000-06:00Sorry Amy. The 1st amendment say "Congress shall M...Sorry Amy. The 1st amendment say "Congress shall MAKE NO LAW respecting the ESTABLISHMENT of religion, NOR prohibiting the FREE EXPRESSION thereof.."<BR/>Congress has made no law stating that ANY religion is the "official" religion of the Counrty. Under the Constitution the States could, if they so chose, establish one religion over another. The Separation garbage is just that. Garbage. The words do not exist in the Constitution. This is why many want judges who won't make up things that do not exist in the document.Billiamhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15489132492383133253noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20692053.post-1143215299609622632006-03-24T09:48:00.000-06:002006-03-24T09:48:00.000-06:00It's only a matter of "separation of church and st...It's only a matter of "separation of church and state" when people are trying to promote religion and practice it in public.<BR/><BR/>Just like when conservatives start meeting with prayers.<BR/><BR/>Otherwise, it's perfectly legal and constitutional to ban religion, or quote it for your purposes - like Hillary did yesterday, referring to Jesus and his stance on illegal immigration.Amyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05913350782739004678noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-20692053.post-1143182448684982932006-03-24T00:40:00.000-06:002006-03-24T00:40:00.000-06:00You didn't honestly expect them to be intellectual...You didn't honestly expect them to be intellectually honset, did you? Say it ain't so!!Billiamhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15489132492383133253noreply@blogger.com