Wednesday, October 21, 2009

The court is split, but on what?

I am not sure what Ed Garvey thinks he knows in suggesting that Mike Gableman's colleagues are split three to three.

Split on what?

What to do with the recommendation in the pending disciplinary action? It hasn't been made yet.

Whether to require him to recuse himself in criminal cases? It would surprise me if there are even two votes for that. And, if I'w wrong, how many votes will there be for the proposition that the Chief Justice who ran an ad in which she was promoted as "law enforcement's ally" ought to step down in criminal cases?

Whether to recuse himself in what Garvey calls "cases involving WMC?" If, by that, he means cases in which WMC has taken a position or filed an amicus brief, I doubt there would be even one vote. And, if there is, then how many cases will require require recusal because of the interests of public employee unions, casinos, plaintiffs lawyers, etc.? Who needs a Supreme Court anyway?

Ed seems to think that the Gableman campaign's now infamous "loophole" ad won the election. I doubt that. It was, as I understand it, a very small buy (the campaign had little money) and most of the times that it was ever ran was in the context of the controversy around it. I suspect that hurt Gableman (some politicos have told me that they think it stopped his momentum and almost beat him)in that the average voter simply apprehends that a candidate has been accused of doing something wrong.

Garvey finishes with the white whale of "reform." We should have public financing. But, as I explain in a forthcoming piece in the Harvard Journal of Law & Public Policy, public financing schemes are not likely to work because independent money will swamp the publicly funded candidates (just as it has swamped the privately financed campaign of the candidates under our present system).

If you want to hear a better discussion of these issues (from the perspective of both the right and left) come to Marquette University Law School on October 30.

In fact, maybe Ed should come too.

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illusory tenant said...

Split on what?

Clearly, the disposition of pending motions for Gableman's recusal and their effect on the scheduling of oral arguments in State v. Patrick C. Carter (which are underway right now, despite the lack of a resolution to those motions).

It seems to me not unreasonable for Mr. Garvey to extrapolate further from those two separate statements issued by members of the court last week.

In fact, observing the interaction among the justices this morning goes some way in affirming Garvey's deeper suspicions.

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illusory tenant said...

By the way, I'm not aware of any exceptions to SCR 60.06(3)(c) that depend on either the breadth of dissemination or the number of repetitions of the type of statement that the rule addresses.

In the absence of such exceptions, it's difficult to see what legal relevance your stated concerns have.

Rick Esenberg said...

There is no doubt that they are divided. I don't need Ed Garvey to tell me that. It's an open secret but it is not new and is not entirely or even principally due to Mike Gableman. (Nor is the division necessarily 3-3.)Were Gableman to be driven from the Court (which will never happen), the division might well become even more rancourous.

So, given that the division was not caused by Gableman and can't be remedied by his departure, what is it that can be alleviated in that way?

And where is it 3-3? Of course, as you suggest, its either this, that or the other thing. Is it just a scheduling matter? Or are they really hung up on recusal? Does he think they are divided on something else?

I understand - and have repeatedly restated - the problems with Gableman's ad. He has been embarassed by it. But it's not going to result in his removal and it ought not result in his recusal in criminal cases. The persistent effort to suggest that it could - or that, based on some well accepted principle of law, it should is politics. When you or Garvey announce your support for a recusal motion directed at the Chief, I'll reconsider.

I don't recall offering an opinion on whether the ad constitutes a rule violation. Garvey's point was that it elected him. It didn't.

illusory tenant said...

Garvey's point was that it elected him. It didn't.

And how do you know that with any greater degree of accuracy than Ed Garvey doesn't know it? It and the efforts of WMC surely played some role.

Look what happened when WMC didn't spend several million dollars assassinating the character of the Chief Justice who, by your own standards of measurement, is an even more "radical" judge than Louis Butler: she won 60% of the vote.

So Mr. Garvey at least can marshal some empirical evidence in his favor.

Dad29 said...

WMC does not pick on old ladies, IT.

illusory tenant said...

Where I come from, the land of socialized health care and enhanced longevity, that's not an old lady, that's robust middle age.

On the other hand, I can understand WMC being mistaken for a bunch of old ladies.

Anonymous said...

It-

This really does seem to be an attempt to stop exposing judicial candidates as lefties even if they are lefties.

I think Gableman should receive a lot of credit for not choosing a case that could have caused much more controversy. It appears that he truly showed his judicial constraint in what he did even as a political candidate.

Rick Esenberg said...

Garvey was complaining about the Mitchell ad. WMC didn't run that.
I think it did't elect him because no one saw it. It was, I am told, a $ 14,000 buy. What play it did get was in the context of Gableman having done something wrong. I am also told that internal polling (not by Gableman's campaign; I don't know that they did any) showed his momentum stalling at the time.

If Garvey had said that independent expenditures elected Gableman, I would agree. Whether it makes sense to equate those expenditures with WMC is another matter. My guess is that they were largely from out of town.

But, nothwithstanding that, the idea that he ought to recuse himself from matters with respect to which WMC (which is an advocacy organization) has take a position is unworkable and is generally not maintained by any one in a principled fashion. Had Butler won, he would have owed a debt of gratitude to the independents as well. You would not have argued - even Ed Garvey doing his best Keith Jackson ripoff - would not have argued that he should recuse himself in cases of interest to public employee unions or the plaintiffs' bar.

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